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SaLIS Vol

SaLIS Vol. 65, No. 4

December 2005

 

Letters to the Editor

 

RE:  SALIS vol. 65, no. 3, 2005

 

Dear Editor:

In the above issue of Surveying and Land Information Science (SaLIS) you asked for our views as readers on the important topic of surveying education. First, let me commend you on the excellent decision to publish the proceedings of the 20th Surveying Educators Conference held in Texas in June 2005. One can only wish and hope that most of our “professional” surveyor members read the thought-provoking papers and that at least some of them read them very carefully. For all of us practitioners there is much food for thought in them.

Professor N.W.J. Hazelton, who among surveyors in Ohio may also be known as “The Great Satan,” has stirred up a hornet’s nest. In his two papers he strongly advocates exporting or “off-shoring” sophisticated high-tech surveying/geomatics services to foreign countries that have a proven reputation for advanced education and a ready supply of highly skilled young professionals. Hazelton’s radical idea would leave data collection by low-cost American crews in local hands and shipping field note data and documents via the Internet overseas, thus improving quality, turn-around and even profits for the American surveying firm.

There are a couple of flaws in his revolutionary thinking. As an example, he uses the IT industry which is moving jobs overseas. Unlike certain products, surveying requires local knowledge and judgment, not only of cadastral boundary history but also for topographic surveys and construction control. Even automobile manufacturers have partially replaced their exports with new overseas factories located where their customers are; for instance, Ford has been building cars for the German market in Cologne for decades. Mercedes luxury vehicles are built in Alabama and several Japanese cars are manufactured in the U.S. too.

He likens sending data to surveyors overseas to the unfortunate practice of some irresponsible American surveyors who sign and seal plans of land which they have never visited even once. I disagree with him on that; U.S. surveyors have a duty to go out and look at the land before signing a plat. After all, our clients—whether lawyers, owners or architects—have a right to expect from the professional surveyors, whom they have engaged, that they at least be familiar with the real world out there, and not just the one on paper.  It will reduce risk and liability.

Even Hazelton recognized that off-shoring would make the U.S. surveying profession less capable in the long run and would lead to a weakening of the U.S. cadastral infrastructure—not to mention national security.

 

EDITOR’S NOTE: In the paper mentioned above, Dr. Hazelton did write (page 145):”Readers should note that simply because a topic or scenario is presented and discussed in a paper such as this, it does not follow that the author supports, advocates, or holds to the inevitability of the scenario. Critics who make that presumption will be very publicly directed to this paragraph and addressed as the comprehensive fools they are. It simpler to shoot the messenger than heed the message, of course, but the long-term focus is an important part of this discussion”.]

 

In his second paper, Professor Hazelton is equally unkind to our profession, although some of his critical remarks are on target. He is convinced that we, as a collective entity, have a “collective mental illness” exacerbated by “collective paranoia.” “The U.S. surveying profession, as a whole, does not understand why it exists,” he wrote, “and most of us put pressure on educational institutions to produce ‘field crew fodder’ instead of aspiring professional surveyors who are educated, thinking, and forward-looking.

He questions the need of calling ourselves “professional” surveyors, something surveyors in countries, where surveying is considered a profession, would never do. There it would be “tautology.” He forgets that America’s unique history of openness and great personal freedom has both a positive and a negative side. Here, surveying technicians who have learned to hold a leveling rod, to pull a measuring tape, or to push a few buttons on a total station instrument will proudly tell their family and friends that they are now “surveyors.”  Even American engineers have found it necessary to add “professional” to their title of engineer in order to distinguish themselves from “maintenance engineers,” radio “sound engineers,” or locomotive “railroad engineers,” as Dr. James A. Elithorp observed in his paper.

Professor Hazelton is concerned that the recent weakening of ACSM and its structure as a central body may have led to a “balkanization” of our larger surveying/geomatics field. (By the way, I have noticed the absence of our traditional and honorable ACSM logo from the cover of SALIS.)

Balkanization “suits a reductionist view of knowledge,” and it certainly suits the mentality of those who fear intruders, he warned. He contrasts the breakup of ACSM with the AMA and ABA who, respectively, cover all medial specialists and all lawyers, regardless of specialty.  Neither will, however, cover nurses, paramedics, or paralegals.

We need mindsets who can rise above structure and process and who can see the big picture. Hopefully Hazelton was wrong when he concluded with a pessimistic prediction that our internal divisions will ossify the structure and prevent any long-term solutions to the erosion of our profession.

With regard to the other papers, I notice that Professor Earl F. Burkholder’s teaching premise is to help students “learn how to learn,” while Professor Robert Burch cited another quote “that the purpose of education is not to fill the minds of students with facts….it is to teach them to think.” Burch analyzed training vs. education and warns of “nuts and bolts” surveyors who demean the need for education to become licensed. Problem solving without the theoretical underpinning is dangerous, and a disservice to the profession, he warned. Surveying education must strive for the proper balance between practicality and theory. And he is right.

Burkholder discussed the enormous overlap between surveying and engineering and urges us to promote collaboration and interaction between individuals at all levels. He asked if members of the ASCE Geomatics Division should be invited to participate in discussions about surveying program criteria. My answer is yes, absolutely.  We can not be narrow minded and risk ossification!

Professor Gary Jeffress traced the professional lineage of surveying to the educated elite of history.  Many surveying education programs in the United States “were born at civil engineering schools,” he wrote (or vice versa, I might add. It’s the old chicken and egg question.) He points out that real estate is the largest category of tangible assets within the economy and that risk management is one of the functions of surveyors. He used the term “error budget” repeatedly without giving us a precise definition of that term. 

We practitioners know or should know that surveying and platting of real property is, in fact, a value- added activity. While Jeffress decries the well known low enrollment and very low esteem, he is quick to distinguish between the surveying and the GIS professions, thus stoking the fire of “balkanization” even more.

Dr. James A. Elithorp makes a similar distinction. He correctly warns of the need to cover potential liability in our litigious society. Besides technical fundamentals, a professional education must allow students to acquire the professional perspective necessary for successful practice. A few years ago, the NHLSA Newsletter of New Hampshire reprinted a letter by Michael Hoffman, PLS (The California Surveyor, spring 2001). He reported that the Oregon State Board had received complaints against surveying professionals at a surprising imbalanced 5 to 95 ratio, i.e. 5 percent on technical ability and 95 percent on professionalism and ethics. As Elithorp concluded, critical thinking skills and other intangibles are as important as technical know-how (if not more so) to most employers. Most private practitioners will agree with him on that.

When it comes to surveyor education, a European model could serve as a beacon to American surveyors of the future—not to imitate but to emulate, and adapt as time goes on and knowledge becomes paramount. The GIS organization “Geometer Europas” has drafted a Multilateral Agreement with high educational standards. It was approved by a EU Commission in Brussels, last year (read “The Global Land Information Explosion,” SALIS Vol. 64, No. 4, 2004, pp. 253-257).

The new bachelor degree curriculum at East Tennessee State University is heavily concentrating on technological advances. It prides itself in producing current surveying graduates that will be able to operate sophisticated data collectors. Their claim that “a graduate from the program can work as a professional surveyor,” may be a little too optimistic, if not unrealistic. Time will tell.

The Surveying Educators Conference 2005 has once again highlighted the ongoing struggle against the prevailing ignorance and short-sightedness of both employers and students. To expect instant gratification and success is a sign of our times and a symptom of our impatience. Fortunately, unrealistic expectations by those who want to have the proverbial cake and eat it too are tempered by the real world.  Dedication, perseverance, and cooperation between far-sighted employers and educators will succeed— slowly but surely.

 

Very truly yours,

Gunther Greulich, PLS, PE

Fellow and Life Member

Former president ACSM

 

 

Response from Dr. Gary Jeffress, RPLS

Mr. Greulich requests a definition of “error budget.” I am happy to supply one. An error budget is a logical and orderly method of tabulating errors. In surveying, it basically boils down to the accuracy and precision required to meet various positioning standards (e.g., regulatory standards, ACSM/ALTA standard, etc.)  The concept is also tied to the cost the client is willing to pay for the desired accuracy and precision, that is, the more accurately the position is to be known, the more the client needs to pay.

My paper was not designed to stoke the fire of balkanization between the surveying and the GIS professions. I am trying to point out that the GIS profession can take advantage of the surveying profession’s unique skills in positioning and providing risk avoidance for those who seek out our services, such as property owners. Also, the surveying profession needs to communicate to the GIS profession the pitfalls involved in getting positions wrong. Unfortunately, the number of surveyors is declining and they are getting older. Surveying services continue to be in high demand, so there is very little incentive for these older surveyors to move into the GIS realm. Maybe, the GIS profession could be attracted to take on the surveying mantle (go through the surveying license process) and assist in these endeavors.

 

Response from James A. Elithorp, Ph.D., P.L.S.

Thank you for the invitation to respond to the letter dated 25 October 2005 by Mr. Gunther Greulich, profiling the 20th Surveying and Educator’s Conference papers published in the September 2005 issue of the Journal of Surveying and Land Information Science.

A good part of Mr. Greulich’s letter deals with the myriad of issues presented by Dr. N.W.J. Hazelton in his two papers on potential “off-shoring” of geomatics services and the definition and structure of the geomatics profession in the United States. I appreciate the fact that Dr. Hazelton was able to frame these issues for our consideration in his two papers. The term “balkanization” caught my eye, and the more I thought about the term, the more the term began to resonate with me. To my thinking, balkanization is a good term to describe the splintering of a profession into small groups of well defined practice at the expense of the greater profession. If the behavior of the organizations formed to represent the interests of the members of the geomatics profession is any guide—we are currently suffering balkanization. First, ACSM and ASPRS ceased having joint annual conferences; then ACSM reorganized into a support structure for several member organizations. To the extent that balkanization creates structures that hinder the profession’s response to the changing needs of our greater society, it is undesirable. 

It is the relentless technological change facing our greater society that should be our primary concern.  It is the American experience that laws are changed to allow for the provision of services by those who can meet societal needs faster and/or at a lower price, or expensive services are bypassed in favor of another way of accomplishing the same result using a new technology. We should be concerned about our place in society and our competitiveness in the greater economy.

The four-year degree requirement for licensure is inevitable because its graduates are provided a foundation upon which to handle the relentless press of technological change. Change is occurring at a rate where individuals, in the larger society, find it necessary to reinvent their place in the economy on a periodic basis. Education is of great assistance in this process of adapting to change. To further complicate matters, significant changes are now occurring in the field of higher education as well.

Students are demanding courses provided by distance learning technology for the delivery of coursework. It is a technology that has been made possible by the Internet, and it will continue to grow and dominate in the future. One of the problems with distance education is the separation of the student from the central energy of the classroom where interactions between professors, other like-minded students, and working representatives of the geomatics professions provide a synergy. This deficiency will have to be mitigated with the active mentorship of these students by working geomatics professionals.  The implications of the distance learning model on the future of the geomatics profession may be significant and yet unrealized. With distance learning, the working surveyor is in college. 

My practical experience in geomatics education finds that those working professionals willing to be mentors and become heavily involved in undergraduate geomatics education are those owners and managers of companies wishing to hire these individuals. These owners and managers can claim a disproportionate influence on the future of this profession because they are directly molding the new members to the geomatics profession.

The graying and imminent retirement of much of the geomatics profession is well documented. The remaining leaders and managers of the geomatics profession will be heavily influenced by the graduates of geomatics educational programs. Perhaps, this is a typical American experience—the future of the profession will be sketched by those willing to invest in the future. If you wish to shape the future, become involved in your four-year geomatics program. Your involvement will become more influential and necessary as higher education moves toward distance learning for the provision of educational services.

 

James A. Elithorp, Ph.D., P.L.S.

Land Surveying/Geomatics Coordinator

Great Basin College

1500 College Parkway

Elko, NV 89801

 

 

 

RE:  SALIS vol. 64, no. 3, 2004

 

Dear Editor:

Recently Dr. Muneendra Kumar’s paper, “A Geodetic Approach: Universal NoProjection Seamless Mapping” (SALIS September, 2004), crossed my desk. Given the spectacular claims tendered in the paper, and given the fact that it achieved print, I feel compelled to present an analysis of the method.

 The paper presents a simple principle by which to obtain maps: the cartographer decides upon a latitudinal and longitudinal extent to be mapped. The northern and southern parallels of that extent are to be mapped as straight lines in proportion to their geodetic length, as are the eastern and western meridians. The first question left unanswered by the paper is how those four line segments are to be arranged with respect to each other. Figure 1 leads the reader to believe it must be a trapezoid, but the paper uses the term “trapezium” sometimes, which leaves open the question of whether the latitudinal boundaries are intended to be parallel and whether the longitudinal boundaries are intended to subtend equivalent angles with respect to the parallel boundaries.

Without resolving this question the paper shows some calculations apparently intended to convince the reader that the distortion in the trapez(ium? oid?) must be negligible insofar as extents typical of a largescale map are chosen. Assuming a trapezoidal configuration, I agree the distortion must be negligible. Deviations from the trapezoidal can lead to enormous distortions, however, so one would think the paper would be clearer on this point. It is not.

What happens within the trapezium? I do not intend the question rhetorically. The paper says nothing about it. Instead it insists the method is a “noprojection” technique, and the author apparently believes specific instructions for transferring spherical coordinates to planar coordinates are not needed. Now, if the mapped extents are a trapezoid, one could make reasonable guesses about what is supposed to happen within the trapezoid; for example, the meridians should be spaced evenly along the parallels, and parallels should be spaced proportionally to their spacing on the ellipsoid. However, that is not the only system one could devise. Many systems could introduce massive distortions. Ludicrous schemes aside, there are other “reasonable” systems one might pursue (to, for example, prevent kinks along the borders), but if one keeps the extent to the recommended 15-minute section of the ellipsoid, the differences between “reasonable” systems are slight enough to ignore for practical purposes. They can not be ignored for theoretical purposes, however, since without a rigorous procedure we are left unable to compare the “new” projection with existing projections.

Since the paper refuses to tell us how to configure the outer boundary of the map, we are obliged to follow a chain of logic, eliminating those paths that lead to absurdities. Hopefully such a procedure will lead us to the author’s intent in the absence of any coherent statement of that intent. Let us assume then, for a moment, that the author intends for us to use a trapezoid, rather than a freerform trapezium.

Further on in the paper, the author claims, “Seamless topographical maps and charts compiled and drawn using the UNSM system with true North and scale will extend from pole to pole and from East to West around the globe. They will be with practically negligible or no distortion.” A remarkable claim, to be sure, as it has been known since antiquity that a map projection can achieve no such thing, a principle that has been proven countless times over the centuries both empirically and rigorously. Perhaps it is for this reason that the author has chosen to claim his method is not a projection. We shall see that the syntax one chooses cannot hide the inexorable semantics of mathematics. The method IS a projection (as is any procedure that transfers spherical coordinates to plane coordinates), and it abides by the rules.

Since we have chosen to untangle the author’s intent by first assuming perfect trapezoids, let us see where the assumption leads us. We are assured the method can create a map from pole to pole and from east to west by conjoining trapeziums, so let us start by building one up from the North Pole. The method states we are to use triangles at the pole, and the meridional and latitudinal segments must still retain their correct proportions. At the pole the triangles adjoin around the common center to form a polygon. The principle is the same regardless of the extent of the sections. The trapezoidal sections just south of each of the triangular sections share a common segment of a parallel and thus must be the same length if they are mapped according to their true proportions, as directed by the method. Therefore, they fit perfectly north to south. We can extend this as far south as we like until we reach the South Pole. Now, each southerly increment proceeds in a straight line from the North Pole, of course, because the trapezoids are regular and their latitudinal extent are parallel to each other. That does not allow for any deviation from straight. The trapezoids march outward from the center in a radial pattern.

What, then, happens as we go south? If we construct the trapezoids according to the instructions of the method, we can calculate very quickly that the east–west trapezoids must separate from each other as a function of how far south they are, violating the seamless claim. One can see immediately that this must be so because the widths of the trapezoids begin to contract as we pass the equator, making it impossible for them to fill up the spaces created by the everwidening concentric circles formed by the parallels. Lest the reader imagines the problem only starts at the equator:

• Length of equator on GRS 80 ellipsoid:

  2 * pi * semi major axis = 40075017m

• Length of meridian from pole to equator: 

  10,001,966m

• Perimeter of circle with radius 10,001,966m:

  2 * pi * 10,001,966m = 62844206m

In other words, by the time we reach the equator, the trapezoidal bases (which you will recall are required to have the geodetically correct length) only have 64 percent of the length required to eliminate seams. In other words, the gaps are over a third the width of the trapezoids.

 Clearly trapezoids will not work. What about trapeziums? If we are not constrained to parallel parallels and equivalent angles for meridians there should be some way to fill in the gaps that otherwise would develop. What is that way? In a pattern that should start to feel familiar by now, the paper says nothing about the problem. Figure 3 of the article provides some hint that the author does intend to abandon trapezoids, but remains silent on methodology. If we attempt to start with some arbitrary section anywhere on Earth, we will find ourselves stymied: there are not enough constraints on the angles.

 For example, imagine laying out a perfect trapezoid at latitude 45 and straddling the prime meridian, with a latitudinal extent of 5’ and a longitudinal extent of 5’. At that latitude, the meridians will angle inward by about 0.03 on such a small section. Imagine we wish to construct surrounding trapeziums outward to create a smallscale map, as promised by the method. We know we cannot go with trapezoids because we will be left with seams; we must employ trapeziums. We know the west edge of the center section angles inward from south to north by 0.03. That is ALL we know. The west edge of the center section must be the east edge of the section to the west of it, but what about the other three legs of the trapezium? How are we to lay them out? We cannot look to the paper for help. It is not there.

 With some thought, however, we can salvage an answer. By the description of the method, we can imagine the prime meridian as a straight line from the North Pole to the South Pole, and correctly scaled. Further, the North Pole is circumscribed by triangular sections, two of which share the upper segment of the prime meridian. This means that two sides of a trapezium are defined by (1) the prime meridional segment one section south of the North Pole, and (2) the southern parallel of the triangle immediately above (either the triangle to the east or west of the prime meridian will do). With two sides laid out, and the lengths of the other two sides known, we are able to plot the entire trapezium. Once so plotted, we may proceed southward by the same process, developing trapeziums as we go.

 The whole thing must come to a screeching halt eventually, however. Why? Recall that the meridional segments composing the trapeziums’ east and west edges are obliged to maintain proper scale. This means that all meridians are scaled correctly from North Pole to South Pole. We are also constrained to have no seams. Those two constraints set up an absurdity. Recall that the prime meridian is a straight line from North Pole to South Pole. Recall that the shortest path between two points on a plane is a straight line. If all the meridians are the correct length, then they are all the same length as the prime meridian. If there are no seams, they must all run uninterrupted between the North Pole and the South Pole. In other words, they are all the same line. That is no fun at all.

 At this point the method has failed completely. It cannot maintain all the constraints it specifies because they amount to a geometric absurdity.

 In the interest of science, let us relax the constraint of no seams by allowing one interruption. While we are no longer strictly talking about the method presented, it might be of some interest to see what results by applying the tatters. If we consider the point of interruption, and given there is only one, the equator seems a reasonable choice by affording symmetry. The resulting map is shown in Figure 1, based on 5 sections. We can choose smaller and smaller section sizes without appreciably changing the appearance of the graticule, and certainly without changing the behavior. As the section size approaches infinitesimal, the kinks go away and the projection becomes a true, analytic map projection rather than an amalgam of trapeziums.

What can we say about this new projection? Is it original? Is it useful? Is it anything that Dr. Kumar imagined? I cannot answer the latter. The projection is cordiform in nature, a class of projections dating from the 16th century. A similar projection was employed in Oronce Fine’s influential map of 1531, but Fine’s projection preserved areas, a virtue this new projection lacks. Other cordiforms by Staub and Werner also preserved areas. I think this projection has never been described; I have not seen anything that matches the mathematics, though there are cordiform projections discussed in literature I do not have on hand.

The notion of using trapezoids to bound regions of interest is ancient. Trapezoidal projections were employed very commonly throughout the 16th, 17th, and even 18th centuries in large-scale and, occasionally, even smallscale maps. They are easy to construct yet maintain good accuracy in large- and mediumscale maps. Typically, the mapmaker chose two parallels along which to keep correct scale, but scaled the central meridian correctly rather than the two outer meridians. There are strengths and weaknesses both ways, and indeed, of the thousands of trapezoidal maps created in those early centuries, variations in construction abound, and it seems evident that some were attempting to keep the outer meridians correctly scaled. It is an obvious principle, and it seems very likely the author’s projection has been conceived of and explored independently many times for smallscale use but rejected because of the limitations I discuss next.

What are the properties of this new projection? A casual inspection of the graticule convinces one that the projection is neither equalarea nor conformal. Does it live up to the paper’s claims of having “true north and true meters” and “everything will be mapped as it really exists on the ellipsoidal Earth”? Absolutely not. The projection shows horrible angular distortions away from the poles and the central meridian. It would be impossible to casually determine true North in any of the trapeziums that deviate significantly from the trapezoidal. A closer inspection of the graticule shows critically high compression in the outer meridians. Nothing in those regions can be usefully distinguished on a worldscale map. In fact, at the 180th meridian and the equator, the trapezium has been squashed so badly that it no longer has any area.

 What if we restrict the use of the projection to largescale applications, ignoring the claim of seamless mapping and a single, worldwide system? How does the method hold up? Because the paper is silent on how to transfer any coordinates except the outer boundary, it is difficult to say. We can make some general observations, however: because the outer boundary all around is scaled correctly, and because a convex body such as an ellipsoid always has more surface area than a planar object bounded by a path of identical length, everything inside the trapezium has less area than reality, regardless of the details of projection. That immediately compares unfavorably with any of the common cadastral projections, because they are usually configured to balance compression in the center with inflation at the periphery. Certainly, for maps of such a tiny extent as the 15’ x 7.5’ sections mentioned in the paper, the point is moot; any “reasonable” projection will do equally as well because any discrepancies will be microscopic. But expanding the territory to several degrees in extent will push the author’s method into trouble faster than UTM.

Is there any merit to the implication that highly local applications of projections would do better to use a projection centered on the locale, rather than a standardized system such as UTM or State Plane where the location of interest may, after all, be several degrees away from the projection’s center? Of course; there is nothing novel in that thought. But people use the standardized systems because they provide context and reference points and readymade maps. If they need none of those benefits then they certainly could choose the author’s system, but then again they could choose UTM or something else with better—and known—properties.

The paper’s lack of citations disturbs me. It makes no reference to existing literature on trapezoidal projections, cadastral projections, topographical projections, map tiling, map projections in general, or anything else it discusses. One wonders if the many failings of the paper could have been prevented by perusing the relevant literature, as is customary in academia.

In summary, Dr. Kumar seems to be describing a projection novel to the literature (if we take the constraints he has specified at face value), but the projection does not behave as he claims. It is not a dismal projection, as projections go, but it is not a particularly good projection, either. If we take the liberty of interrupting the projection at the equator—we must interrupt it somewhere—then we achieve a cordiform projection whose utility is sorely limited by its severe compression of the outer meridians. In any case, the method as described is useless for cadastral mapping and surveying due to the angular distortion that accrues inevitably as we broaden the territory we map, without resetting the origin of the projection. Yet the method falsely promises we can do just that. It should be no surprise that the paper is hazy on procedures; it promises an impossible thing.

 

Daniel “DaanStrebe.

Chair the ICA Commission on Map Projections.

 

 

Response from Dr. Muneendra Kumar

When Galileo said, “The Sun does not go round the Earth,” the Pope of The Vatican City forced him to withdraw his research. Luckily, Dr. Strebe, Chair, ICA Commission on Map Projections, cannot do the same to the new conceptual approach of UNSM System (since renamed as “Kumar Mapping System (KMaps)).

It seems that Dr. Strebe has not surveyed, plotted, and compiled a topographic large-scale map and does not know the differences between (1) an ellipsoid and a geoid; and (2) ellipsoidal and spherical coordinates. As to him the only way to map is to “force” through a projection the round Earth to a plane, cone, or cylinder, I am not surprised that he has not grasped the new conceptual approach. His letter provides me with an opportunity to re-clarify a few salient features of KMaps, and also show its merits over projected maps.

In KMaps, 99.999999 percent flat ellipsoidal trapezoids are approximated to flat trapeziums or triangles of the same dimensions. It is NOT projected. (Here, a trapezium is taken as truncated isosceles triangle with its top cut off).

Just like the 7.5’ quad, 1:24 k-scale individual maps produced by the U.S. Geological Survey cover the whole country, KMaps will cover the whole Earth. There is no one single KMap to cover any large country or the Earth, as being conceived by Dr. Strebe.

In the UPS projection, a 10-km N-S length at the pole is mapped with a distortion of 60 m and sometimes shown in E–W direction on a topographic map/chart. As a contrast, in the new approach, poles will remain as points and N–S lengths will retain their direction.

In the UTM projection, a 2-km length along the 80o latitude is distorted by about 500 percent; in a KMap, it will retain its length.

What happens inside a trapezium is the same, as happens inside a projected rectangle. The main difference is that there will be NO grid lines and the topographic features will be mapped in the geodetic or ellipsoidal coordinates and not by spherical or grid coordinates.

The proposed KMaps are for large-scale national map series, and seamless mosaic will be achieved sequentially between neighboring maps. There will not be “breaks” every six degrees as they occur in UTM, which is used for military mapping from 80o South to 84o North latitudes.

Presently, in 1:250000 maps or 1: 250000 or 1: 500000 aeronautical charts, bigger distortions are accepted. But, in the new approach, they will be produced with practically negligible distortions and thus will be thousands times better. I can refer to a chart for the Polar area, which is compiled in stereographic projection, superimposed by the UTM grid. It would be interesting to hear whether Dr. Strebe would consider this better than a “KChart.”

The paper’s objective was to describe the new conceptual approach and not to teach any Production Division of a map-making agency how to make maps. At his level, Dr. Strebe should be open to the concept of making a 1:24000 quad map from a flat trapezium, approximated from a 99.999999 percent flat ellipsoidal trapezoid, rather than being locked to “flattening” the USA through a conical projection. If he still wants to learn “how to” plot and/or compile a KMap, he is welcome. I can show him in person, as this will not be possible by e-mails. If he prefers, he can invite me to give a workshop at the next ICA Conference.

When he mentioned (in an earlier e-mail to me) the geoid, instead of an ellipsoid, for projection mapping and commented adversely on the review process, reviewers, and editor, who are eminent experts in their fields, I did not feel like continuing any further our scientific exchange.

 

Muneendra Kumar

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